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| Blackjack |
Posted - 06/08/2009 : 2:19:52 PM
It's time to get travelball rolling again. The 14U division is talented. But, once again, it should be dominated by 2 Louisville teams. Here is my early top 10 rankings:
1. Sluggers
2. Stunners14
3. Southern KY Crush
4. Ky Cobras
5. OC Outrage14
6. Blitz
7. KY Outlaws
8. Blugrass Blaze14
9. Stunners13
10. OC outrage13
By the way - I am an interested but non-biased party. I call it like I see it. |
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| ManitouDan |
Posted - 08/05/2009 : 09:05:40 AM
good post x bucket ! MD
All about fastpitch ! |
| ilikesoftball |
Posted - 08/04/2009 : 7:54:41 PM
x-bucket
I stopped and watched a Force game at Nationals. You had a very nice team. Had a chance to speak to some parents and they were very nice as well.
Think your comments are dead on.
Good luck with your program! |
| x-bucket dad |
Posted - 08/04/2009 : 5:06:34 PM
I have not been on in a while, but found this to be a very good discussion topic to throw my two cents into. My daughter lives in Western Ky. and plays ball for a team out of Southern Illionis the "Southern Force". I had to do this because she has dreams of playing College softball. I have been around ball for more than twenty years and have gained valuable information over this time involving the recruiting process. The golden rule in this process is exposure. Now this does not have to be across the country depending on what level softball college your dd has hopes of playing softball for. Another words D-1 down to NAIA. If your daughter hopes to play for a top twenty softball school in the SEC or other magor conference then yes I beleive exposure at large College showcase tournaments and playing ASA softball is very necessary. If your dd has hopes of a smaller school then Magor showcases are not necessary locall ones would be suffient even though schools like U.K. Southern Illionis Univeristy and U.T. Martin attend the large ones also. We have played in the U.S.S.A. World Series on a former team. It was a great expierence for my dd to attend these tournaments at a national level to be exposed to that type of national tournament and our team did fairly well on both occassions for a team of local girls. You guys better watch out for Marshall County in a couple of years:) We recently return from the ASA nationals in Marietta, Goergia. The Force finished 17th out of 122 teams from across the country including the Louisville Lady Sluggers. A great orginization, I must say who also finished well. The point I'm trying to make is college softball is not every girls dream, but if it is ASA is the kind of softball you need to play. I personally saw at least 5 college coaches from Wisconsin to Georgia at the 14-U nationals. And when we attending a exposure event like Kansas City there were at least a hundred major college coaches present. I personally feel that if the local teams would register with ASA and support it Kentucky Softball would come ahead. If tournaments would register with Ky. ASA and play under ASA rules it would be a start. If every coach and tournament director would support ASA more teams from Kentucky would get births to the Nationals. If girls are serious enough to play softball on a travel team they must have some consideration to play at the college level.
For anybody interested in being a part of the Southern Force out of Johnson City Illionis 2009 ASA state champions and finished 17th at the ASA Nationals tryouts will be August 17, 2009 at the University of Illionis softball field. I do not have a time as of yet and yes there is a team fee and yes you will have travel but this year we drove all tournament sites within 5 hours. If any one is interested contact me at theonlynatural@hotmail.com |
| ilikesoftball |
Posted - 08/04/2009 : 09:37:50 AM
I can certainly understand the argument that cost is a huge factor in traveling long distances to play events. Not everyone is capable of paying a huge team fee then absorb the other related travel costs for parents and siblings for far flung travel.
However, as I posted in a previous thread....Most Kentucky teams should be able to compete at Bowling Green in an ASA Regional Qualifier like we had this year. We had 3 teams participate 2 from KY 1 from Chicago. Put that event in California and you have 50 teams. ASA state was at least better attended.
Every competitive team should have ASA state and whatever other National Qualifier we have that year on the schedule. There are also good ASA events in southern Indiana and Southern Illinois....Stepping up the level does not have to be crazy expensive.
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| softballhead |
Posted - 08/04/2009 : 08:22:03 AM
Blackjack, You are right OC Outrage was missing two of their player and only had 9 for the tournament. Yes, the Outrage is on a path to some great tournaments this fall and will have a tough schedule next year.
OC Outrage will have tryouts on Aug. 22nd for 10u,12U,13U,14U,& 16U if anyone is interested??? Check it out on eteamz or there web site www.ocoutrage94.com |
| Blackjack |
Posted - 08/04/2009 : 08:07:06 AM
Jake - It was subpar but it is fall... Even the Outrage and Stunners were missing players (as is common this time of year). The OC pitcher from Grayson Co. absolutely has the Stunners number! Bell pitched a great game herself but Decker was the star of the show.
Static - They looked decent by beating OC. Got a couple late runs against Stunners. Solid bats in the lineup.
Softballhead - Looks like a better schedule for OC. |
| BigJake |
Posted - 08/03/2009 : 11:18:54 PM
Not to take anything away from the OC, but it was a very "average" tournament. a 95 team took the one seed by going undefeated through pool play and took the Lightening into extras before loosing by 1. A good (but not great) Static team (which with one or two exceptions was a 95) beat the OC 94 team in pool play and I thought the Stunners 14U team would mop up the mess. Apparently the OC has the Stunners number (I've heard OC has won almost every match up this year).
I never understood how the Outrage ended up being seeded ahead of the Static even though the Static won the head to head match up and they had the same overall pool record.
It was just a weird tournament all the way around. It definately boiled down to the Stunners and Outrage, but neither team looked as sharp as their reputation or record indicated. Also, there was a men's tournament going on at the same time which may have thrown a wrench into the gears of the two top teams. Not that the men were interfering, but it was different having to deal with that scenerio. |
| runner13 |
Posted - 08/03/2009 : 8:28:25 PM
Stunners 14U ,Coach Bell,I think.What about that team Southern Static out of Bowling Green, I know they beat OC 2-1 in the tournament & gave Stunners a hard time.Same pitcher all weekend,I think.They looked pretty tough & I heard they are a first year 14. |
| softballhead |
Posted - 08/03/2009 : 6:59:42 PM
OC Outrage ,94 is scheduled to play in some great tournaments this fall:
1. 2009 Georgetown College Prep Classic 16u/18u Georgetown, Kentucky
2. Sep 26th – 27th Queen City Diamond Dry Classic 16u Hebron, Kentucky
3. Oct 16th – 18th AKADEMA TOP 50 SHOWCASE 16u/18u Indianapolis, Indiana
4. Oct. 31st –Nov. 1st Fall Exposure Tournament 16u Murfreesboro, Tenn.
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| Blackjack |
Posted - 08/03/2009 : 6:26:58 PM
Dad9/MD - OC94 won the 16u Ft Knox tournament. No, beating Lyndon not a huge accomplishment but the tournament was dominated by Stunners and OC who happened to be in the same side of the single-elimination bracket. OC won 1-0 in extras. Great win for OC. It was a 14-team tournament and Yes, it's time for OC to play a better schedule. |
| magictime |
Posted - 08/03/2009 : 4:36:08 PM
Wow hard to believe that the summer is over. It's been great hearing all the updates from the various teams. I see both sides of the travel ball argument. If you have thousands of dollars to spend you can go all over and play teams from several states and thats great. However,when you pay your own way it makes it tough. We won 5 of the 7 tournaments entered and finished 4th in the other two. It had nothing to do with trophy hunting these were just the tournaments in our area.
For the record played Heartland Thunder once won 3-1
Played the BG Crush twice L4-3 W2-1
Stunners once L4-0
Ky Lightening played four times W3-0 L5-0 W10-5 W5-3
Down State Rippers 94 (So. Ill.) three L5-3 W2-1 W5-3
Christian Co four times W6-5 L9-5 W3-0 W7-1
Hope everyone has a great fall!! |
| dad9 |
Posted - 08/03/2009 : 3:16:32 PM
OCfan1305: Was it the Stunners 13U or 14U that you defeated at Ft.Knox? The Stunners 16s were at ASA Nationals in St. Louis. Not sure if I would brag much about beating the Lyndon 16s but congrats anyway on picking up the plastic. I agree with others that with all of that talent it is time to load the schedule next year so the girls can excel. BTW: who else was in that tournament? |
| ManitouDan |
Posted - 08/03/2009 : 10:44:49 AM
Ilike--again great job representing your state at ASA's . Your comments are dead on --talent alone will get a few wins , mental toughness (AND LUCK !) gets you in the top ten -- your story mirrors the cincy doom very closely --they lost 2 heartbreakers in pool play ,both in the last at bat , which set them up for a tough bracket . They still ended up winning 3 losers bracket games.
But until you play in it , they is no descibing the pressure of the big show. (maybe you just challenge people to an overnighter LOL ) Just kiddin you OC-- you obviously have a great group of players --don't hold them back --make plans NOW for the biggest baddest schedule your organization can handle , don't underestimate your kids - I'm not talking a tough tourney or two --load that thing with high competetition every time out . you may not go 40-6 but your kids will get soo much better. (and congrats on another tourney win , playing up also --good job !) MD
All about fastpitch ! |
| 0Cfan1305 |
Posted - 08/02/2009 : 9:46:09 PM
OC Outrage wins the 16 U at Ft. Knox beating the Stunners in the semi finals and the Lyndon Lightning in the Championship.
For all the teams that like to talk and say OC won't play anyone we are hosting the OC Overnighter on August 22 why don't you come out and play. |
| ilikesoftball |
Posted - 08/02/2009 : 8:44:40 PM
Manitou
Thanks for following the Sluggers. 7 out of 10 starters (flex) were 94's...2 were 95 one was a 96.
A heartbreaking tournament. Lost three games (one pool, one winners bracket and one loser bracket) by one run in comebacks. Overall record was 4-3. Not sure all the girls understood the environment we were playing in and that talent alone was not enough...It takes heart and pride and effort at the Nationals. Everyone has talent. I really feel we had top 10 talent....Maybe not top 10 in experience.
Lost our final game in International tie break. We were vistors, and scored in our half so we are up one run. Home team sac bunt girl to third, one out....then tried a squeeze bunt we defended perfectly BUT the catcher dropped the ball applying the tag (runner was out by three feet) then got up and attempted to throw the batter out running to second...ball scooted past fielders and rolled to the fence for the winning run. I went from certain were we going to win to realizing defeat in literally three seconds.
The team that beat us wound up finishing 7th.
Great experience. Great to see the best of the best. We are not as good as the top 5 teams or so in the nation. There is a group of teams that are head and shoulders above everyone else. But after that we were right in there.
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| ManitouDan |
Posted - 08/02/2009 : 08:55:25 AM
were the sluggers all 94' girls ? great job down in georgia to get 3 wins in bracket play . MD
All about fastpitch ! |
| KYLightningCoach |
Posted - 07/29/2009 : 11:06:00 PM
It is true that the past couple of tourney's we have had to pick up a player or 2 due to girls being gone on vacation and such. But everyone on our team is a 1st year 14U player except our catcher. We are looking for another full time pitcher for next years season. We have played the Crush 3 times losing by 1 and 2 runs 2 of thos games and played the Magic tough everytime we have played them..we are 2-3 against them right now..2 of those losses being 1 run ball games. Considering we don't have any team fees we are definitely a strong team overall. |
| ManitouDan |
Posted - 07/29/2009 : 10:26:17 AM
sluggers won their 2nd pool play game , if they win their 1st round bracket play game the actually get a rematch with the team that beat them 2-1 in pool play.
All about fastpitch ! |
| BigJake |
Posted - 07/29/2009 : 09:30:55 AM
That seems pretty simple now that you explain it. I should have been able to do the math, I guess. Thanks for clearing it up for me. |
| CallingCadence_14 |
Posted - 07/29/2009 : 12:25:16 AM
quote:
Originally posted by BigJake
Another stupid question? What's 94 and 95 mean. I first saw this on a Stunners team, but the more we play, the more I see it.
Not at all a stupid question. It's how some org. seperate there tms.
Tms who a composed of girls with mostly 1995 birthdates are considered 95's and 96's so on and so forth.Just a way to squeeze in 2 tms into one age bracket so the O.C. 94's or the older 14U tm and the O.C. 95 the 13's are seperated. |
| BigJake |
Posted - 07/28/2009 : 11:47:55 PM
Another stupid question? What's 94 and 95 mean. I first saw this on a Stunners team, but the more we play, the more I see it. |
| CallingCadence_14 |
Posted - 07/28/2009 : 3:55:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by BigJake
Wow, I check out for a few days and this thread blew up!! Is there not a 14U class at Ft Knox this week or is everyone just playing against older teams. I notice that a lot of the 14U teams play in 16U, but I didn't understand why when there were 14U classes. Is it the better competition theory?
Movin on up...Tms. know it time to play to your potential in the Fall so in some cases it's time to move it on up.Prep for ther upcoming year and for the younger ones time to mark one up for the Squad.Most tms like all the 94's it's time to prep for the upcoming season. For all the 95's time to mark there territory. |
| Blackjack |
Posted - 07/28/2009 : 3:12:49 PM
If you have an older 14U team that is any good you must play some 16u/18U events. Otherwise, you will only find 1 or 2 decent teams in a 14U tournament in KY. You could travel to other states and get better competition but if you stay close to home, play up. If you are happy with winning most of your games without ever being challenged then play 14U all the time.
I am not dogging on KY softball, I love it....We are actually catching up with surrounding states. |
| BigJake |
Posted - 07/28/2009 : 2:26:55 PM
Wow, I check out for a few days and this thread blew up!! Is there not a 14U class at Ft Knox this week or is everyone just playing against older teams. I notice that a lot of the 14U teams play in 16U, but I didn't understand why when there were 14U classes. Is it the better competition theory? |
| softballhead |
Posted - 07/28/2009 : 12:02:57 PM
Thanks ManitouDan, for giving the Outrage 14u some credit!!! |
| ManitouDan |
Posted - 07/28/2009 : 10:49:32 AM
quote:
Originally posted by 0Cfan1305
quote:
Originally posted by ManitouDan
sluggers drop their 1st pool play game 2-1 after having a 1-0 lead into the 7th at ASA nats. Thats stinks --I root for all the ky-ohio teams against the evil empire (west coast - Cali) MD
PS Softballhead -- Did the outrage play the ohio wave ? I thought they were in separate brackets ? Wave is tough (catcher is fantastic) MD
All about fastpitch !
Not only did the Outrage play the waves the team they played in the championship game beat the waves.
Thanks for the insight --do you have anything relevent to add ? we all should agree just because team A beat team B does'nt mean crap as far team C is concerned. The Wave (no S ) are pretty good when there ace is in the circle (and fresh) but they like many teams are a different team when she isn't in the circle. On a day when 4-5 games are required they don't have the depth in the circle to continue playing at a high level. IMO
outrage beat them the Wave --thats a quality win. congrats
All about fastpitch ! |
| cuttochase |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 10:36:36 PM
quote:
Originally posted by magictime
Hey Chase Ive been to a few HS state tournaments in the 'ville and they were all at the park in Jeffersontown. I know there's got to be a better park than this in all of Louisville, they can only use three fields and 1 or 2 have grass infields. Good question where do they play and practice?
I know they have tourneys at that park and it is a very nice park, but surely there is a better place to play that doesn't have grass infields.
I know the Lyndon park is nice, but surely in Louisville there is a park to play at.
It has always irritated me that girls have to play on grass infields and 350 ft. fences. People act like it is no big deal. Maybe if the boys had to play on dirt infields and 700 ft. fences they would think different.
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| 0Cfan1305 |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 10:26:31 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ManitouDan
sluggers drop their 1st pool play game 2-1 after having a 1-0 lead into the 7th at ASA nats. Thats stinks --I root for all the ky-ohio teams against the evil empire (west coast - Cali) MD
PS Softballhead -- Did the outrage play the ohio wave ? I thought they were in separate brackets ? Wave is tough (catcher is fantastic) MD
All about fastpitch !
Not only did the Outrage play the waves the team they played in the championship game beat the waves. |
| magictime |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 9:44:49 PM
Hey Chase Ive been to a few HS state tournaments in the 'ville and they were all at the park in Jeffersontown. I know there's got to be a better park than this in all of Louisville, they can only use three fields and 1 or 2 have grass infields. Good question where do they play and practice? |
| cuttochase |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 6:42:20 PM
quote:
Originally posted by dad9
Not to start anything but playing 16s at Ft.Knox is nothing to be too proud of. The best 16s teams will be at Nationals this week and there hasn't exactly been a turnout of powerful teams anyway this year there.
I agree, I went there once this year and was surprised at the level of teams there.
I did see the OC Outrage there, they seem to be a good team, I think they took 3rd that weekend, which was surprising, they finished behind the 13 yr old OC team and the Heaters from Indiana.
My opinion only, but I think teams don't want to go through the hassle of the roadblocks and the prices at the concession stand, probably turn people off.
Here is a question for the Louisville people.
Why are there not more tournaments in Louisville? It's a big city , could draw from Ky as well as Indiana and Ohio.
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| dad9 |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 5:33:38 PM
Not to start anything but playing 16s at Ft.Knox is nothing to be too proud of. The best 16s teams will be at Nationals this week and there hasn't exactly been a turnout of powerful teams anyway this year there. |
| softballhead |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 5:14:19 PM
ManitouDan,
Outrage '94 played Ohio Wave in pool play. Outrage won 6-2. |
| Blackjack |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 4:12:42 PM
Magic - I know the Sluggers have some pretty hefty fees. Not sure how much but ilike could tell you. The Stunners have very reasonable fees ($500-$600).
The Stunners have Ft Knox 16 on their schedule. |
| ManitouDan |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 3:28:39 PM
sluggers drop their 1st pool play game 2-1 after having a 1-0 lead into the 7th at ASA nats. Thats stinks --I root for all the ky-ohio teams against the evil empire (west coast - Cali) MD
PS Softballhead -- Did the outrage play the ohio wave ? I thought they were in separate brackets ? Wave is tough (catcher is fantastic) MD
All about fastpitch ! |
| softballhead |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 3:21:47 PM
Yes the schedule may be light but it was made early in the year with all the tournaments paid for. The Outrage did beat Stunners 14U (Bell) team twice the two times that they played them in the LIT and they also beat the Ohio Waves that the Sluggers had trouble with a few weeks ago in Columbus. The Outrage will be in Fort Knox playing 16U this weekend if anyone would like to join them??? |
| magictime |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 3:21:26 PM
Hey blackjack you seem to know alot about the stunners and sluggers do the parents front the money for them to travel everywhere or once they are picked for the team everything is paid for? I would love to go to these big tournaments but we don't have the funds. One girl that could have played with us went to So Illinois to play on a team that goes all over and her dad told me he had spent about $8,000 already this year. Just curious |
| magictime |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 3:15:29 PM
Hey softballhead you were right the Ky Lighting did pick up some good players from So Illinois, 2-3-4 batters. Two pitchers and a catcher. The Lefty was really good. They beat us 5-0 in winners bracket finals but we came back and beat them twice to win it. 10-5 in extra innings the first game and 5-3 in the finals. |
| Blackjack |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 1:12:29 PM
That is correct. You will not see the Sluggers, Stunners, Crush, etc at regional and national events that do not have a tough competitive field. But I am not bashing the Outrage. That is evidently what they want to play. I just think you should play at a higher level if you have the athletes to compete (they do). You don't have to play 18U, etc all the time but at least compete in your state tournaments and regional qualifiers such as Sluggerfest. |
| ManitouDan |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 12:57:08 PM
thanks for clarifying--going 40-4 or 30-2 in the summer sounds great but playing the most competetive schedule is much more important --my pal , the asst' coach for the rays said the GAPSS and Stingrays fields were way more loaded than this all sanctions.
All about fastpitch ! |
| Blackjack |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 12:34:12 PM
"Move up" may not be the right words. I am suggesting they play a more competitive schedule since their team is obviously pretty good. They have a great won-loss record (that we all see on this board) but playing cupcakes every week does not help you. There were a few good teams in that national event so they deserve some credit. However they did not play in any of they better events state/region wide including any of the state tournaments (ASA, NSA, USSSA, USFA). I am not suggesting they play the schedule the Sluggers played because losing every week is tough on you also.
If you are good, you need to do your team justice by playing a competitive schedule. Their #1 pitcher is very good. However, she will not get much better until she faces top hitters and learns how to get them out consistantly. She is the heartbeat of this team. If I was her high school coach I would have demanded she play at a higher level because she is good enough and I would want here to get better. Just an observation. |
| ManitouDan |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 11:44:37 AM
hey Blackjack --thanks for the poll --creats alot of interest and fun. question --when you suggest the outrage "move up" what do mean ? like play up in age group or move competetive tournies or ??? not trying to start any argument because I truely don't understand what you mean Thanks MD
All about fastpitch ! |
| Blackjack |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 11:13:41 AM
Congratulations to the Outrage. Not sure what this "all sanction" world series is about but if you win at a national level you deserve some credit. Maybe they should consider moving up...
Congratulations to the Stunners95 for winning the USSSA 13U World Series. A great accomplishment.
Stunners14 and Crush both had great weeks in USFA "A" Series Panama City Beach with both teams losing late. Stunners went 6-2 Crush went 5-3. VERY competitive event.
ilike - Stunners won the ASA State and chose to stick with USFA A in FL. Bell has tremendous respect for your team and has been quoted as saying that Sluggers are the overall best 14u team in KY. That is why I, for one, consistantly rank them #1. I would be interested to see them play, however.
Your coach even sent their coach one of his varsity pitchers who, by the way, HIT 2 homeruns including a dramatic grand slam in FL last week. The Stunners certainly never dodged any team but the paths haven't crossed. I think I would be more interested in seeing the Sluggers vs. the Impact now. I have never seen ilike talk trash until this most recent post...
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| ManitouDan |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 10:08:50 AM
congrats to the outrage --I wish I could have been present to catch this tourney --outrage beat my kids team (stingrays -caton) in the quarters . My kid took the weekend off for a beach vaction. We had a pitcher quit 2 weeks ago and going with 1 arm is tough. we were down to 9 on sunday and the girl that was pitching tweaked a quad muscle.
The Ind team beat a tough Ohio wave team to get to the finals. MD
All about fastpitch ! |
| softballhead |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 08:10:30 AM
Great Tournament OC Outrage '94 with winning the Midwest All Sanction World Series!!! Outrage had great pitching with Victoria Decker, Jessica Leanhart and Sam Conder and great defence behind them. |
| 0Cfan1305 |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 12:33:46 AM
The OC Outrage 14U won the Midwest All Sanction World Series in Columbus Oh this weekend and was undefeated 8-0. They won the Championship game against the Indiana Shockers from Terre Haute, there were 44 teams in the 14U division from Ohio, IN, MO,NY Canada and Michigan. |
| ManitouDan |
Posted - 07/25/2009 : 10:25:43 AM
Ilike---don't take the bait for an internet message board fight --they are useless.
anyway my KY friends I encourage you to embrace ASA. Thats where the cream of the crop is. your neighbors in Ind and Ohio already know this. Their best teams ALMOST exclusively play ASA tournies. and at the end if you really want to know where you measure up --it's ASA nationals. no argument , no nothing , you either compete here or you really don't know how you stack up against the best.
I've witnessed several year ending tournies , some called regionals , some called World Series , all sanctions, etc etc but nothing compares to playing the texas, Arizona, and Cali teams. it's a fantastic experience-- KY needs more org's to step up and declare it's their yearly goal for all teams in their stable to compete at that level. It will lift the level of play and the depth of the # of good teams MD
All about fastpitch ! |
| cuttochase |
Posted - 07/25/2009 : 12:58:29 AM
quote:
Originally posted by ilikesoftball
Pitch
Anyone who has any knowledge of the Sluggers 14 knows we are looking for a fight. We have not ran from anyone in 3 years. We will be right there at the ASA 14A tournament waiting for anyone else brave enough from KY to compete at that level. I did not see Stunner's name on the list...even though they qualified by winning ASA State.
Matter of fact I'll call out that 16U Impact you follow, You were scared to play last year...Got nerve enough now?
Why get on here and lie , I know for a fact the Impact never was scared of you guys.
In all your intelligence you wanted the Impact to play you guys in between tournament games, now get real.
You know the truth, why get on here and lie?
I have no ties to the Impact this year, but I do know what happened last year and any coach would have been a idiot to ask them on their break between games in a tournamet to play another game.
You had a chance to put your money where your mouth was, you knew we would not do that to the girls, so instead of getting in the tournament, and you guys were off that weekend you chose to ask us to play in between tournament games, knowing we would'nt do that.
This board has been civil this year and I know you did'nt start this, but I can't let you get on here and lie!
For the record best of luck to you guys in the World Series, I hope you do well, you guys have a fine team. Again best of luck!
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| ilikesoftball |
Posted - 07/24/2009 : 11:41:39 PM
Pitch
Anyone who has any knowledge of the Sluggers 14 knows we are looking for a fight. We have not ran from anyone in 3 years. We will be right there at the ASA 14A tournament waiting for anyone else brave enough from KY to compete at that level. I did not see Stunner's name on the list...even though they qualified by winning ASA State.
Matter of fact I'll call out that 16U Impact you follow, You were scared to play last year...Got nerve enough now?
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| ManitouDan |
Posted - 07/24/2009 : 4:04:30 PM
saw there was a 2nd Ky team attending nats but don't remember the name --who is it (other than the sluggers)
All about fastpitch ! |
| pitchncatch |
Posted - 07/24/2009 : 2:26:14 PM
dust off those feathers ilikesoftball and quit running from bell!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| ilikesoftball |
Posted - 07/24/2009 : 06:13:45 AM
I think ASA is getting better in KY. Last year they held 6 tournaments including state at the 14U level. We have quite a few teams going to the Northern Nationals this year which is a big improvement. The President of KY ASA is from Owensboro I believe, so I'm sure they want to expand to Western KY. I am assuming they just need someone to step up and run events.
Another problem KY ASA faces is that the real reason to play ASA events is get qualified for a National event....Either the Northern Nationals (actually a regional event ASA is split into 4 groups Eastern, Western, Northern & Southern) or the "A" Nationals (the true Nationals). The bids allowed to be awarded to the true nationals is based on the number of ASA teams registered in the state for the prior year....So KY generally comes up short. For example I think this year KY got 2 bids while California received 14, Indiana received something like 10. I don't think they are limited on Northern National bids so continued promotion of that event would be good. The more teams we get playing in the Northern Nationals and the A Nationals the better softball will be in the state.
Sluggers schedule enough ASA to provide a decent chance to win a bid to whatever level we have chosen for that year. In 08 it was Northern Nationals this year the big nationals....Then fill in with the best events we can find in KY or out of state. There are also "Regional" qualifiers for the main nationals that may take place in KY, IN, Illinois or Missouri and sometimes we may need to schedule in one of those to provide additional chance to qualify.
At the end of the day however it is all about finding the right tournaments and nationals for your team. You want to both be competitive at your level and have some fun - However that is defined for your team. For example the USFA Nationals in Panama City has always sounded like a nice combo of fun and play.....
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| magictime |
Posted - 07/23/2009 : 10:35:36 PM
Webster I agree with you, personally I hate ASA especially in Ky. They don't have many tournaments and there rules don't allow you to get extra kids in the game. I would love to play the better teams in the state but we basically pay our own way and can't afford it. I'm all for the top teams to travel to western KY to play though. |
| webster |
Posted - 07/23/2009 : 8:02:53 PM
The best plays ASA? Kentucky ASA Association needs to step to the plate and have ASA tournaments other than State tournament. I know in the younger divisions there isn't any ASA tournaments and they're ready or willing to start driving all over the nation. |
| hardcore softball |
Posted - 07/23/2009 : 5:24:06 PM
Your defentialy right cuttochase. To be the best you need to beat the best and the best plays ASA ball. Come on KY lets quit trophy hunting and avoiding the strong tournaments with the best teams. |
| cuttochase |
Posted - 07/22/2009 : 9:00:34 PM
Not really saying that, it would have been nice to see them against the rest of the state. However I think a team should play where they want and to what goals they have for the team. If being considered on of the best is a goal then yes I think you should play the best. All depends on the goals of the team.
dad9: check your pm's |
| dad9 |
Posted - 07/22/2009 : 7:39:08 PM
It appears that people are subtly implying that the Outrage is playing a below par schedule and not going head to head against KY's best? Know nothing about them, just reading the messages..............
Cuttochase: are you Sammy? |
| softballhead |
Posted - 07/22/2009 : 6:38:22 PM
The Ky. Lightning did pick up some players for that tournament. One of them was a strong left handed pitcher. The Outrage had a great tournament! They had to come out of the losers bracket and play 5 games on Sunday to reach the championship game. They lost be 2 runs. The Outrage is 39-5-1, with the 5 losses by 6 runs.
The Outrage '94 had to play in Ft. Knox that weekend of the ASA Tournament. About half the team had went to the BlueChip Camp that started on Sunday near Ft.Knox.
The Outrage '94 is putting on a Moonlight Madness Tournament Aug.22.
There is still spots left for 14U. Any team is welcome!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| cuttochase |
Posted - 07/22/2009 : 5:26:41 PM
Why didn't the OC Outrage play in the ASA state, it would have been nice to see them against some of the best in that age group in the state? |
| magictime |
Posted - 07/22/2009 : 3:46:23 PM
[quote]Originally posted by 0Cfan1305
The OC Outrage 14 U played in the summer sizzler in Santa Claus IN this last weekend and finished 2nd, lost to the KY Lightning from the Mayfield area in Western KY. The Outrage is heading to Columbus OH for the Midwest Showdown World Series this week.
[/quote} Wonder if Lightning picked up some new players. We (Magic) played them last month and they were good but not great. |
| 0Cfan1305 |
Posted - 07/21/2009 : 8:49:13 PM
The OC Outrage 14 U played in the summer sizzler in Santa Claus IN this last weekend and finished 2nd, lost to the KY Lightning from the Mayfield area in Western KY. The Outrage is heading to Columbus OH for the Midwest Showdown World Series this week. |
| magictime |
Posted - 07/21/2009 : 5:13:37 PM
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Originally posted by cuttochase
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Originally posted by BigJake
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Originally posted by magictime
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Originally posted by bgmystics
Thoroughbred sports in Ed Vincents academy in BG
Have you seen this team play? we are going to Henderson this weekend and I see they are playing too. I havn't ever seen them play unless they used to be called something else.
Magic were definately the cream of the crop in Henderson. No one was even in the same class.
How did you guys do at ASA state?
We finished 4th, lost 1rst game to the crush 4-3 on Friday night. Beat them Sunday morning 2-1 but wasn't really that close. Lost to the stunners 4-0 next game. We were short handed all weekend though. |
| cuttochase |
Posted - 07/21/2009 : 5:06:53 PM
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Originally posted by BigJake
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Originally posted by magictime
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Originally posted by bgmystics
Thoroughbred sports in Ed Vincents academy in BG
Have you seen this team play? we are going to Henderson this weekend and I see they are playing too. I havn't ever seen them play unless they used to be called something else.
Magic were definately the cream of the crop in Henderson. No one was even in the same class.
How did you guys do at ASA state?
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| magictime |
Posted - 07/21/2009 : 2:32:14 PM
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Originally posted by BigJake
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Originally posted by magictime
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Originally posted by bgmystics
Thoroughbred sports in Ed Vincents academy in BG
Have you seen this team play? we are going to Henderson this weekend and I see they are playing too. I havn't ever seen them play unless they used to be called something else.
Magic were definately the cream of the crop in Henderson. No one was even in the same class.
Magic definately had a good weekend. We had played the In stingers 2-3 weeks ago and lost 4-2 but our ss was not there. She hit a 2 run hr in the first inning and we coasted this time. The stingers have a very good team though. Madisonville rage finished third and the TSA team from bowling green finished 4th, however their last game had a weird ending. The coach forfieted the game in the 7th inning because his only pitcher was hurting and said even if they won they (she) couldn't go another game. What did everyone do this weeken? |
| BigJake |
Posted - 07/20/2009 : 10:58:02 PM
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Originally posted by magictime
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Originally posted by bgmystics
Thoroughbred sports in Ed Vincents academy in BG
Have you seen this team play? we are going to Henderson this weekend and I see they are playing too. I havn't ever seen them play unless they used to be called something else.
Magic were definately the cream of the crop in Henderson. No one was even in the same class. |
